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Old 03-25-2009, 10:58 AM   #1
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Default Alternative transmission oil?

Hi guys,

need help on this. Are there other transmission oil that is commercially available that we could use for the GTR?

Thanks!
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:35 AM   #2
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you should really stick to the original fluid recommended
engineers spent so much time on the fluid choice

its recommend when you go for your optimization service
to make sure you get the fluid heat range charts that is the best way to
tell when to change your fluid
talk to your technician
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:30 AM   #3
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Alberta I have to say this is just Bull@#%$ I am sure if Nissan was so inclined to tell us the source of the oil used we would find it is being used by other cars at a fraction of the cost! Nissan has just decided to say bend over! The Spec V is just another example of this way of thinking on Nissans part,come on they could come up with nothing more then $20,000 seats to get the price up to $170,000? The tran oil is big joke and i believe there is some law in the USA that says if a company makes you use a certain product to maintain warrantey it must be provided free.
If anyone out there knows the specifics of this law let me know please it might be a good issue to press.
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:02 PM   #4
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honestly they hide it from us too
i asked already during my training
they mask all the fluid with "GTR" stamps
if you really want the the fluids to a chem lab and break it down
to every little bit (paying the research lab thousands of dollars)
to find out exactly what it is and then go search out the fluids your self
it honestly will make it alot harder, just wait eventually a company will find a way, its been like this for years nissans matic k, j and cvt fluid
finally boss lubricant offer us a all in one fluid for the vehicles now
but just wait it out really something will come up
companys spend millions of dollars trying to find out alternative
but for now the gtr fluid will do
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:00 AM   #5
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I doubt Nissan spent any real money on the "design" of this order besides the GTR label. As i said I am sure this same oil is being sold by others under another name. Kinda like the marine industry, they sell a $2 part used in cars for $10 saying it is marine tested which in most cases is bull. I know the manufacture of the oil as it is listed in Nissan repair manual you mechanics get. If I lived in Japan i would just go to the company and find out what it is!
Bottom line I love the car just do not like Nissan at this point. In fact i was all set to buy a car for my daughter and have decided against buying a Nissan because of how they have handled the whole GTR parts cost and warrenty issues! If Nissan is listening this should be scaring you as it is the exact opposite result you wanted!
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:23 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by babibengkak View Post
Hi guys,

need help on this. Are there other transmission oil that is commercially available that we could use for the GTR?

Thanks!
I guess it's nearly double price at Thailand than US,if so, you can order from Speed for Sale for a "better" price.
If you change the oil few times,it cost you a new eco car!
Ok,personally i think that new Ferrari,Posche,Lambo,Audi?,VolksWagen...had the "same" system.And we need to check out thier price...
Nissan's machanic will tell you or scare you for others oil you change...
Yes! i'm so scared for the high price tag tranny so i shall listen to them use the Factory GTR fluid
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:25 AM   #7
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Oops!Babibengkak,you are from Indonesia...sorry
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Hi again guys.

So, Pentosin, Willall or Nissan transmission oil? Any suggestion?
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1. OEM
2. Willall
3. Pentosin
4. others
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Norman, the problem that you had with the uneven gears was caused by some small debris in the oil right? How did that get in? or is it metal parts from the transmission itself? or did the debris came in whilst doing the oil change?
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Babi... Contact south side performance to get some transmission fixes.

Willall will be the best fluid for stock and modified. However In stock form ffl-4 and nissan oem fluid will work.

Regardless which one you choose you have to change based on temps.

The r35 oem fluid is atf with additive package and nissan knows that so that's why you have to change the fluid out more often than most cars. LC and heavy driving make heat and that's why you can't rely heavy on changing based on mileage alone.

Nissan didn't spend any time on developing a fluid or it would have been more like the willall fluid which does a lot to protect the soft metals and the heat.

If trying a new fluid it must be compatible with both the trans and the clutchs and specific specs of each. An insufeciant fluid might burn a clutch or let the gears break down more (etc etc etc).

I would say ffl-4 is very similar to the stock fluid but there is not enough data that says its a match yet. The r35 is far superior than the cars it was manufactured for.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:16 AM   #12
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Yes,the new rough gears was produce some small debris in the oil and it stuck the solenoid,i guess.

it's metal parts of gears.(before this,i haven't change transmission oil yet)
still run-in ,and i treat the car like a baby,but it treats me like that.

that's why i advice everyone change the first trans oil at about 1800miles or less.

btw,i put OEM in first place cause don't want to confuse any other members still having thier warranty.


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