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![]() This info is coming form the new car and driver America vs the world. I know the GTR won but please read on.
Im getting really worried about two major car mags ( car and driver and road and track) not being able to produce the 0-60 times and the 1/4 mile times that they previously produced with the GTR! Why is this happening. Supposedly the car could consistently produce 0-60 times of 3.5 sec and 1/4 mile times of 11.6. Were previous preproduction models modified to get better stats??? Don't tell me they cant do launch control...They were able to do it previously and they are professional drivers. |
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![]() all I can say is that Car & Driver is junk. I have it just for entertainment only.
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![]() Could be they chose NOT to use LC. Also, those journalists' cars have had the living shit beat out of them by every Tom Dick and Harry, so it wouldn't suprize me a bit it they were less than optimal after 1000's of miles of thrashing.
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![]() i think its more to do with 91oct gas. I bet the gtr had crappy CA 91 and the GTR pulled timing like crazy. no LC should yield sub 4 sec 60
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![]() temperature, land altitude, gas they use, or just suck driver.
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![]() ok, im gonna be the pessimist, but why did the other cars perform as usual there times were consistent with other tests??? (im really upset and worried) Why is it that the GTR is performing poorly twice in a row by two different car mags??? It has to be more than those factors...(Im not trying to annoy anyone) Please really consider what im saying
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![]() I agree with you elpaso.
I also posted about this in the other forum. Something is not quite adding up. Is it a hurt car, bad driver, bad gas, bad conditions or acutally the truth. If so Nissan will have alot of GTR's sitting on the lots because the advertised and hyped up times, power are not coming true. I am sure that once these cars get to owners the truth will come out. This car is supposed to be so easy to drive then so should these times that were first reported be easy to achieve
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![]() Thank you. because to tell you the truth if september rolls around and more and more results come out with substandard (in my opinion) times. Im gonna say give me my deposit and ill wait for the v spec or something else. Im serious. Im not about to buy an 80k car unless it gives me what it promised since the begining. Ill throw down another 50k at a used lambo or new v spec.
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![]() this was taken 2 days ago as proof of great 1/4 times out of a US spec car
http://www.mygtr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250
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![]() ALSO the difference bt 4.1 sec 0-60 and 3.2 or 3.5 is huge!!!! and so is the difference bt 11.6 and 12.6 in the 1/4 mile. 1 second is an eternity.... Previous tests could have had 4 adult passengers and had better times.
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![]() Yes MC i had seen that. This was a press car and on the east coast so octane shouldnt be a issue on that car. And it seems they were hot lapping it too!
It still doesnt explain the crappy times by a couple of mags.
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![]() i may have misunderstood the c/d editors comment about "this guy may have been hit by the same storm as us" i thought this meant c/d was fooled by nissan when it tested the preproducion gtrs.
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No, Car & Driver didn't say that...a reader wrote them and said it...
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![]() "Much ado about nothing."
I refuse to believe for one second that the GTR isn't everything Nissan claims it is. There's just too much riding on their own claims being accurate, namely their reputation and respect. There is no way in hell they they'd deceive the public by using tweaked preproduction cars. My final thoughts on this on this whole smoke and mirrors theory? FOGETTABOUTIT! ![]()
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Results... Ferrari 430 Scuderia Lap time 1.15,375min 0-100km/h: 3.76s 0-200km/h:11.64s 1458kg with driver Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 Lap time 1.15,714min 0-100km/h: 3.65s 0-200km/h:11.09s 1590kg with driver Porsche 997 GT2 Lap time 1.15,528s 0-100km/h: 3.87s 0-200km/h:12.04s 1550kg with driver Nissan GT-R Lap time 1.17,600s 0-100km/h: 3.87s 0-200km/h:13.15s 1800kg with driver From supercars.net. This is 0-62.14 in 3.87s. I did come in last with it's lap time (don't remember the track), but we have to remember - this car drives differently than other cars around a track (late braking into corners with early acceleration out). Some who test it won't get the same #'s out of it, trying to drive it like the other cars. Also, this car is 80G's. To even be included in this is an ultimate compliment! We could all pay NASA millions, strap rockets to the side of our cars, and we would defininitely have the fastest vehicle on the road. Doesn't sour me at all on the car. Ferrari F430 Scuderia 220K Lambo LP560-4 198K Porsche GT2 191.7K Nissan GT-R, hehehe. Drive it proud. It's not supposed to belong here! M- http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...9&bottom =125 |
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![]() well i am sorry if i pissed any one off. I hope the next few reviews show the car performing like it is supposed to. your also right about owners taking possession of the gtrs soon and we will see their results. I was just concerned because the car is supposed to consistently perform the same and it did not.
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![]() Again consistence depends on other variables. Your result might be different from others. It would probably be best to test the car yourself instead of having panic attack on the magazine results. If you don't like the result you get after you receive your GT-R, sell it. But the GT-R is not supposed to be a straight line car, it belongs to the track. Otherwise, Nissan would have build it with V8 NA, and doesn't care about running Nurbergring at all.
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Hope you didn't take my post the wrong way. Just saying, be proud to drive a car that can even stay in the room with the cars it's being mentioned with. It will be rare, and I look forward to taking possession of mine. I do, however, wonder if the engine is tuned for 93 octane and not 91 (the best I can get here is 92). Maybe the engine is retarding the timing to prevent detonation? Who knows? Saw on the nagtroc forum where the owner's manual says that 93 octane is recommended. Could possibly be part of our problem/answer? M- |
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![]() your right consistency does depend on other variables,...
Those variables should be held consistent. temp octane ect. but the other cars did not seem to have the consistency problem the variables were the same for them. They ran the same times that they consistently run. ok im finished complaining. This was a valid discussion and should be looked at. |
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![]() Hello to all, I will NOT be taking a Nissan GTR if it does not do a solid 3.5 anytime anywhere.....I would happily buy a used Gallardo 1st.
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![]() Your not the only one that has said that. Nissan is advertising this car as a "super car" as per its Brochure and its last few test arent living up to it plus you cant use the LC or your warranty is zapped
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![]() Where the heck did you hear that fairytail? If you couldn't use it, they wouldn't put it in the car, would they?
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