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Old 11-03-2008, 09:51 PM   #1
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I seem to recall one of you guys mentioning that you might be interested in a Super Silver GT-R when we were chatting at C&O yesterday. The dealer I got mine from in Chattanooga may end up having one in the next couple of weeks. The guy who ordered the car was spooked by the disclaimer and may not end up taking delivery. The dealer put him in contact with me to talk about my experience with the car and what I thought about the disclaimer, but I think he's still on the fence about it. Let me know if you're interested and I'll put you in contact with my dealer.
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:51 PM   #2
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Update: this car is available. The guy decided that the disclaimer was to onerous.

I don't really get it. Did you guys have any qualms about signing the disclaimer? Personally I read it and laughed. My interpretation of it was "So you want to date a super model? Here's what you need to know: she's extremely hot, and everyone will envy you for having her, but never forget that she can be expensive to keep. I figured it was Nissan's way of reminding people that the GT-R is not going to have the maintenance profile of a Maxima.
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Does anyone have a copy of the disclaimer?
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Does anyone have a copy of the disclaimer?
This is it (pasted below and also attached in adobe pdf file):

NEW VEHICLE SALES DEPARTMENT (REVIEW WITH GT-R CUSTOMER)
GT-R CUSTOMER DISCLOSURE FORM
IMPORTANT Customer Information

Nissan GT-R
Congratulations on your order to purchase a new Nissan GT-R. In order to ensure a well informed decision to purchase a GT-R, maximize
your driving satisfaction, and enhance your ownership experience, it is important that you understand that the Nissan GT-R is a low
production, high performance sports car which has been designed and manufactured to maximize its performance capabilities.
Therefore, the Nissan GT-R offers unique capabilities but also has unique characteristics that are intrinsic to the GT-R’s normal operation
that are outside of or different from other vehicles. Owning one therefore requires additional and special consideration and understanding
regarding the GT-R’s driving and operation characteristics, sounds and increased service and maintenance requirements. We encourage
you to test drive your GT-R with your GT-R Certified Dealer to better understand its unique characteristics.
Vehicle Sale
You are buying one of the most anticipated vehicles to arrive in the USA. Please read the pre-sale disclosure information. Unfortunately,
because demand exceeds the monthly supply, availability of the Nissan GT-R may be limited and dealers will not have an inventory. There
will be a period of time between placing an order for a vehicle and taking receipt of it. Depending on the duration, it is possible that:
< There may be changes in the specifications of your vehicle, or availability of colors and features. Your dealer will be able to keep
you advised of any changes.
< While there may be changes in final MSRP pricing of your vehicle, in accordance with state law, your actual purchase price will
be determined by your selling dealer and subject to your contract(s) with your selling dealer.
Vehicle Operations
Before operating your vehicle or contacting your dealership with concerns regarding your vehicle’s operations, please
carefully read your Owner’s Manual, Nissan GT-R Warranty Booklet, and the Service and Maintenance Guide for
necessary additional information concerning the proper operation, operational characteristics (including different types
of sounds, noises or wear which are normal for this vehicle) and service and maintenance requirements.
Because the Nissan GT-R is a high performance sports car, some of the vehicle’s systems operate differently and exhibit different
characteristics than less sophisticated vehicles. For example (not intended as an exhaustive list – please refer to your owner’s manual):
1. Brakes
< The brake system is designed for and uses materials which enhance maximum performance under a wide range of operating
conditions. Brake sounds such as squeaks and squeals during use are to be expected on this vehicle; this characteristic is
intrinsic to this vehicle and cannot be eliminated. The rate of pad and rotor wear may also be greater than you have experienced
on other vehicles.
2. Suspension
< The suspension and tires are specially designed for the Nissan GT-R and are designed and calibrated for maximum road
performance. The tires and suspension are calibrated to deliver vehicle performance, not a premium luxury ride. As a result, there
will be more, different and louder sounds and road feel from the tires and suspension than with other vehicles. These conditions
are normal and are to be expected. Different road surfaces will increase or moderate the road noise.
3. Transmission
< Due to the performance capabilities and requirements of the GT-R, the sequential six-speed dual clutch transmission is unlike a
typical automatic transmission. You will likely hear pronounced mechanical sounds from the transmission, particularly at slow
speeds, at idle and in neutral. This condition is normal.
< This vehicle is equipped with hill start assist. This system automatically keeps the brakes applied to help prevent the vehicle from
rolling backwards in the time it takes to release the brake pedal and apply the accelerator pedal when the vehicle is stopped on
a hill. Hill assist is designed to hold the vehicle for only a short period of time and is not a substitute for proper driving technique.
4. Fuel Filler
< When filling the Nissan GT-R with fuel, do not top off the fuel tank after the automatic shutoff activates. It is possible that spills will
occur should the fuel tank continue to be filled beyond the automatic shut-off.
5. Driver Break-in Period
< The Nissan GT-R requires a special break-in schedule to obtain maximum engine performance and to ensure the future reliability
and maximized economy of your new vehicle. Failure to follow these recommendations may result in shortened engine life, reduced
engine performance or damage resulting in repairs not covered by your warranty.
Special Maintenance & Warranty
The Nissan GT-R is specially designed and engineered to maximize its performance capabilities and has unique features and service
requirements requiring specially trained technicians and some specialized equipment.
1. Warranty
< All warranty repairs may only be completed at a Nissan Certified GT-R dealership, and it is most highly recommended
that all services be performed by a Nissan Certified GT-R dealer.
2. Delivery
< Your GT-R’s proper operation, including its engine and suspension settings, was specially tested by Nissan after production. Your
vehicle will therefore be delivered with some mileage reflected on the odometer.
3. Performance Optimization Services
< In addition to regular periodic maintenance recommended by Nissan, the Nissan GT-R requires the following special inspections
to be completed at a Certified GT-R dealership at the assigned intervals. Failing to timely have these services performed will affect
both your warranty coverage and your continued proper operation of and satisfaction with your GT-R:
 Measurement and adjustment, if needed, of wheel alignment
 Engine settings
 Transmission settings
< These inspections are required at the following intervals: 1,000 miles, 12 months, 24 months and 36 months. As set out in the
GT-R Warranty Information Booklet, these Performance Optimization Services will be completed free of charge.
4. Maintenance Costs
< As a high performance sports car, the cost of maintaining the Nissan GT-R (parts and labor costs) will be higher than other
vehicles. Among those requirements are:
 The VR38 engine, with its plasma-sprayed bores, was developed using Mobil 1 0W-40 (100% synthetic) motor oil. This
oil should be used to ensure proper engine operation and durability.
 The VDC unit and other related parts were specially designed for Brake Fluid R35 special DOT4. This brake fluid should
be used to ensure the best performance and proper operation of the vehicle.
 Genuine Nissan Transmission Oil R35 Special (100% synthetic) is unique to the Nissan GT-R and was specially developed
to maximize the friction characteristics of the clutch and the lubrication of the gear bearings. This fluid is required and the
use of additives is prohibited.
Please also note that the coolant mixture ratio impacts cooling performance and freezing temperature. See the Owner’s Manual.
5. Brakes
< The Nissan GT-R’s rotors are cross-drilled with six-piston front and four-piston rear floating calipers, helping to achieve excellent
stopping performance and fade resistance. The rotors are not designed to be machined, therefore, all four sets of brake pads and
rotors should be replaced at the same time. This is normal maintenance for this vehicle.
6. Tires
< The Nissan GT-R is equipped with high performance, low profile, run-flat tires that are optimized for performance and handling.
The life of these tires will be less than those of tires installed on a typical vehicle; and you are likely to experience reduced tread
life, uneven tire wear and tire noise regardless of the type of tire used. In many situations it may be necessary to replace all four
tires if only one tire is worn or damaged.
7. Body Repairs
< Due to the types of materials used for the body and given the precise assembly of the vehicle, body damage requiring certain
repairs will need to be completed at a GT-R Certified body shop. Your Nissan Certified GT-R dealership can direct you to a qualified body shop. Because of the specialized body repair requirements, it may not be unusual for the nearest GT-R Certified body shop to be a considerable distance from either the Nissan Certified GT-R dealership or your current location, requiring
additional vehicle transport at your expense. Additionally, repair times for body work may require more time than you may have experienced with other vehicles.
8. Data Recorders
< The Nissan GT-R is equipped with a Vehicle Data Recorder which is used to perform and administer warranty repairs and is capable of recording the vehicle’s operating conditions and monitoring component replacement or reprogramming. Additionally, the Nissan GTR is equipped with an Event Data Recorder which records crash data in the event of a crash.

Manufacturer’s Warranty
Please read your GT-R Warranty Information Booklet carefully. The Nissan GT-R warranty provides you with extensive coverage when
the vehicle is operated in accordance with the Owners Manual. This includes warranty coverage for performance driving on a track, but
your warranty excludes coverage for racing. The warranty also includes a number of other specific conditions, exclusions and limitations,
which include (but are not limited to) exclusions due to failures resulting from:
< Not adhering to the service and maintenance requirements set out in the Nissan GT-R Owner’s Manual and the Service and
Maintenance Guide, including failures resulting from the use of non-Genuine Nissan Parts or required or recommended fluids.
< Improper repairs or services rendered at facilities other than Nissan Certified GT-R dealerships;
< Failing to have the Performance Optimization Services timely completed;
< Genuine Nissan Parts not intended for use on the GT-R, including NISMO parts not specifically designed and manufactured for
application to the GT-R, or any non-Genuine Nissan Parts;
< Racing or otherwise not operating or maintaining the vehicle as set out in the Owners Manual and Service and Maintenance Guide.

Time of Order or Sale Acknowledgment
I, __________________________________________________ ___, hereby acknowledge that I have carefully
read and understand all of the written information contained in this document concerning the Nissan
GT-R prior to my purchase.
Reviewed by: Acknowledged by:
_____________________________________________ _____________________________________________
(Dealership Sales Executive & date) (Customer Signature & date)
Time of Vehicle Delivery
Reviewed by: Acknowledged by:
_____________________________________________ _____________________________________________
(Dealership Sales Executive & date) (Customer Signature & date)
(Customer’s Name)
1CDFGT 07/08
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NISSAN GT-R SALES REPRESENTATIVE
QUALITY NISSAN
TEMECULA, CA
WORK: 951-676-6601 EXT 2407
EMAIL: gil@qualitynissan.com
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:27 PM   #5
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Thanks Gil, seems pretty fair to me. I don't have a problem with any of it. No mention of the warranty being voided for turnding of VDC though.
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:56 PM   #6
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I thought it seemed fair as well. I just think that Nissan is trying to manage customer expectations.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:27 PM   #7
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Default Warranty and VDC discussion

NISSAN makes it extremely clear (as in the words of Tom Cruise in A FEW GOOD MEN: "crystal") how the designers want you to use VDC off mode.

This is one page I always discuss on delivery:
(page GTR-2 of the owner's manual)
WARRANTY INFORMATION
Please read this OM carefully, together with your Warranty Information Booklet which describes a number of express limitations and exclusions for
failure to follow the instructions contained in this OM, including, but not limited to:
. Failure to use proper parts, fuel and fluids,
. Driving with the VDC off,
. Racing,
. Modifications, including reprogramming or replacing/adding chips in any on-board computer,
. Failure to have required Performance Optimization Services performed.
In addition, see your Dunlop/Goodyear and Bridgestone tire warranties for specific limitations or exclusions for operating summer tires below −48F (−208C).

And, this is on page GTR-5:
VEHICLE DYNAMIC CONTROL (VDC) OFF MODE
Make sure VDC is on before driving the vehicle. The VDC OFF mode should only be used to help free a vehicle stuck in mud or snow by temporarily stopping VDC operation and keeping torque on wheels.

And, this is on both page 5-26 and 5-41of owner's manual:
NOTE: Make sure VDC is on before driving the vehicle. The VDC OFF mode is an emergency mode to help free a vehicle stuck in mud or snow by temporarily stopping VDC operationto allow more power to the wheels.

And this is page 9 of your warranty book:
WHAT IS NOT COVERED
DAMAGE, FAILURES OR CORROSION DUE TO ACCIDENTS, MISUSE OR ALTERATIONS
This warranty does not cover damage, failures or corrosion resulting from:
■ Accident, theft, fi re, driving through water (including engine water ingestion) or misuse, which includes, but is not limited to, operation in violation of any applicable law and racing of any sort whatsoever (Proper use is outlined in your OWNER’S MANUAL).
■ Alteration, tampering or improper repair, including but not limited to adding/replacing chips, reprogramming, or attempting to reprogram, alter, or disconnect any computer or control unit.
Operating the vehicle with the Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) off, except when rocking vehicle when stuck in mud or snow (see GT-R Owner's Manual).
■ Installation of non-Nissan approved accessories or components.
■ Improper installation of any Nissan approved or aftermarket accessory or component.
■ Glass breakage, unless resulting from defects in material or workmanship.
■ Normal wear and tear, including dings, dents, chips or scratches.

ALTERED OR UNCERTAIN ODOMETER MILEAGE
This warranty does not cover repair of any vehicle or any part of a vehicle whose odometer mileage has been altered, or the odometer repaired or replaced and the actual vehicle mileage cannot be correctly and readily determined.

SALVAGE TITLE
This limited warranty does not apply to any vehicle, and is rendered VOID if the vehicle is (or ever has been) issued a “salvage” or similar title under any state’s law; or has ever been determined to be a “total loss” or equivalent by any insurance company, such as by payment of a cash payment of claim in lieu of repairs because of a determination that the cost of repairs exceeded the actual cash value of the vehicle.

DAMAGE, FAILURES OR CORROSION FROM ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS
This warranty does not cover damage, failures or corrosion resulting from:
■ Stone chipping, chemical fallout (acid rain), tree sap, salt, hail, wind-storm, lightning, fl ood or other environmental conditions.
■ The items listed below are not covered under corrosion coverage (perforation from corrosion).
• Exhaust system components.
• Corrosion of outer trim parts, such as moldings. However, corrosion of outer trim parts is warranted for 12 months or 12,500 miles, whichever comes first.
• Corrosion other than perforation, such as cosmetic or surface corrosion due to defects in materials or workmanship. This is covered under the Basic
Coverage of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
• Special bodies or equipment not manufactured or supplied by Nissan.

OTHER
• Any and all transmission and brake noises not associated with an actual failure of the transmission or brakes to operate as designed.
• Any and all tire wear (including but not limited to, tread life and uneven tread wear) and/or noise of any sort or type whatsoever, including tire noise resulting from uneven or accelerated wear of the tire(s).

DAMAGE, FAILURES OR CORROSION DUE TO LACK OF OR IMPROPER MAINTENANCE
This warranty does not cover damage, failures or corrosion resulting from:
■ Lack of performance of proper maintenance services as outlined in your NISSAN SERVICE & MAINTENANCE GUIDE and the GT-R Owners Manual.
■ Failure to use Nissan Genuine GT-R replacement parts when required.
■ Use of improper or dirty fuel, fl uids or lubricants. (See GT-R Owners Manual)
■ Use of parts not equivalent in quality or design to parts supplied by Nissan.
■ Failure to have the required GT-R Performance Optimization Service performed at a GT-R certified dealer.
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